System 50;50 is it democratic - opening statement

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System 50;50 is it democratic - opening statement

Post by Phil Morton » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:56 pm

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Fast thinking, quick points
  1. Democratic sounds good: BUT is system 50:50 democratic? we do not vote during a system 50;50 session
  2. Maybe equal or equality is a more apt phrase, everyone has their own clock, with the same timings displayed, the same ratios
  3. All players start with the same times on their clocks regardless of technical ability, competencies, personal histories or `status`
  4. All players are equal? or is the times allocated to them are equal, of the same value.
  5. Helon Conning believes she would not have said this, she would have not used democratic but the phrase `fair do's`.
  6. Phil Morton believes he heard her say it, and noted it because it was unusual, or he was surprised he had not listed this point of view as a plus point prior to her saying it. Ms Conning is happy for the phrase to stand. For PM this maybe a false memory.
Slow thinking, the summary

is to follow, a work in slow progress

Concepts, democracy, equality, `being free`,




example: octet piece, twenty minutes duration,
all eight players start with their own clock, with the same settings

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Re: System 50;50 is it democratic - opening statement

Post by Phil Morton » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:51 am

The default setting, is that everyone has the same setting on their clock but this is not an absolute value since the introduction of the `rotation` system [Martin Hackett] . The rotation system, a short summary, an example: the ensemble is an octet, there are eight clocks, the settings on the clock displays vary, the ensemble play a sequence of pieces, at the end of each piece the players exchange clocks.

However, it could be claimed that the players agree to this.
That all players are subject to the same rules or process.

Further reading:
Look for the forum: `Rotation`
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Re: System 50;50 is it democratic - opening statement

Post by Phil Morton » Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:09 am

Phil Morton wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:51 am
The default setting, is that everyone has the same setting on their clock but this is not an absolute value since the introduction of the `rotation` system [Martin Hackett] . The rotation system, a short summary, an example: the ensemble is an octet, there are eight clocks, the settings on the clock displays vary, the ensemble play a sequence of pieces, at the end of each part in the performance of the piece the players exchange clocks.

However, it could be claimed that the players agree to this.
That all players are subject to the same rules or process.

Further reading:
Look for the forum: `Rotation`
The above is a fallacy.
The piece is made up of parts. For each part the payers have different ratio settings on the clock.
However, the accumaltive ratio or duration of freeplay that is generating by adding up the values of the parts deilvers an anser that every has the same allocation of freeplay and tacet for the piece.. A bit messy, but the evidence supports this. Equality is maintained.
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